it is a big deal. i think that even if a deal is reached, and i believe there will be one and listening to geithner and members of both sides of the aisle saying that we will not default does not mean that the rating agencies will not downgrade u.s. debt which calls in whole other set of questions from the breadth of the full faith and credit and the collateral issue and the mandate of a lot of of the pension funds and insurance funds to only own triple aç securities is more of the shorter term concern. >> but the longer it goes on, one imagines the longer it affects the markets, and today, all of the markets are down? >> well, it is down, but it is a fairly benign reaction given some of the extreme assumptions of when the asian markets were opening that it is a real disaster. the markets are telling you that they have faith that something is going to get done here and you are seeing it on the equities side and the fixed income side in terms of the ten-year treasury yield, and yeah, it is down, but n